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СообщениеДобавлено: Пн Фев 10, 2014 11:43 pm    Заголовок сообщения: Метеро-5-1 на Кинор 16СХ-2М Ответить с цитатой

Здравствуйте! Исполнил мечту детства, сделал себе подарок на НГ- приобрел 16СХ-2М. Из-за ограниченности средств нашел вариант подешевле - только "тушка" (с приводом 29ЭПСС, который оказался к тому же дохлым, но его восстановил, заменив дохлый транзистор и резистор в электронном блоке, теперь вот хочу переключение скоростей ему добавить) с объективом ОКС1-50-1: http://kinofototeh.ucoz.ru/_fr/1/2632631.jpg http://kinofototeh.ucoz.ru/_fr/1/4075243.jpg Очень надеялся поставить на него Метеор-5-1 от имеющегося Красногорска-3.
Однако выяснилось, что во-первых, задняя линза упирается в обтюратор, во-вторых, потребная толщина опорного кольца для возможности наводки на бесконечность порядка миллиметра получается (что отрицательно на жесткости скажется), или же придется фрезеровать опорную поверхность на "тушке". Да и будет ли корректно работать фокусировочный экран при расположении нижнего края задней линзы вплотную к обтюратору?
Собственно, вопрос: возможна ли в принципе установка на 16СХ Метеора-5-1, есть ли положительный опыт?
Внешне выглядит такая комбинация весьма неплохо: http://kinofototeh.ucoz.ru/_fr/1/4825611.jpg
Или все-таки разоряться на родной 16ОПФ...
2. Байонет явно видно что установлен колхозно, да и ОКС1-50-1 явно нештатный (подпилен - видимо тоже упирался в обтюратор, и по диаметру проецируемого пятна видно, что предназначен для 35 мм камеры): http://kinofototeh.ucoz.ru/_fr/1/4349765.jpg Родной ли это киноровский байонет?
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Объектив на ваш Кинор походу от Конваса присобачили, через самодельный переходник. Насчет метеора- забудьте, там рабочий отрезок меньше, да и хуже этот объектив, чем ОПФ16


Хотя, помню, что на 16СП и Кинор 16СХ ставили объективы от старого байонетного Красногорска, но без переделки. Если у вас не подходит- значит не подходит, другой байонет или рабочий отрезок).
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А байонет по виду походит на родной киноровский, или тоже конвасовский?

Насчет байонетного Метеора-5 видел только в описании 16-СП упоминание.

Все-таки решил не портить Метеор, пусть в комплекте Красногорска так и будет...

16ОПФ нашел только этот вариант http://www.avito.ru/moskva/fototehnika/redkiy_kino_obektiv_16_opf_1_f12-1202.4_269275459 другой вариант еще дороже.

И вот еще альтернативный вариант есть, больше склоняюсь к нему: http://molotok.ru/redkij-zum-obektiv-variogoir-lomo-201-i3968180699.html - светосила больше, дизайн приятнее и само название "Вариогоир" прямо завораживает как-то (живьем видел такой на телекамере КТ-190). Крепление переделаю - главное, рабочий отрезок и размер кадра с запасом.

Насколько адекватны цены, стоит ли брать, или можно где-то найти дешевле?
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цены нормальные, я бы взял 16ОПФ- Вариогоир мутный какой-то. Для телекамер скорее всего был сделан
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Вариогоир и для кинокамер разрабатывался. А почему у 16ОПФ светосила маленькая - даже меньше, чем у Метеора?
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Да, был Вариогоир для Красногорска 4, но лучший из наших это 16ОПФ1, светосила низкая из-за большего диапазона фокусных расстояний (10-кратный), всегда приходится чем-то жертвовать. Обьектив хороший по оптическим характеристикам
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Спасибо за информацию!
А 16ОПФ1 судя по ТТХ - тот же Вариогоир-1 (другое обозначение?)
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C2%E0%F0%E8%EE%E3%EE%E8%F0
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Пришел 16ОПФ1-2М-01. Встал как родной - так что байонет киноровский оказался, непонятно только зачем отверстия распиленные и раззенкованные - как будто подгоняли неродной.
А Метеор смотрится все же солиднее :) Тут еще эта ручка зуммирования по-дурацки смотрится и мешает откровенно, если с рук снимаешь - снял ее.
И еще в комплекте не было бленды, а бленда от Красногорска не подходит - у 16ОПФ меньше размер резьбы под светофильтр. Интересно, в природе бывают переходники 74-77?
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Добрый день
подскажите пожалуйста к какой кинокамере объективы с таким четырёх-лепестковым байонетом (хвостовиком)
я не могу сейчас проверить (диаметр почти 40мм)
или скорее это часть объектива, поскольку нет фокусировки


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если ни кто не знает может подскажите направление где рыть?
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